Education Secretary Betsy DeVos was interviewed on 60 Minutes Sunday night and the reviews seem universal: Leslie Stahl knows more about schools than DeVos.

She “stumbled in answering questions,” was how the Washington Post gently put it. She made unsupported claims about the benefits of school choice and came up empty when asked about the Michigan education disaster, helped by her huge spending there to advance poor charter schools.


These are just some of the things that DeVos said — or couldn’t answer — during the interview:

She couldn’t say whether the number of false accusations of sexual assault on school campuses is lower than the number of actual rapes or assaults.

Arming teachers “should be an option” for states and communities, she said, even though she couldn’t “ever imagine” her first-grade teacher, Mrs. Zorhoff, having a gun.

“We have invested billions and billions and billions of dollars from the federal level, and we have seen zero results,” she said — a statement Stahl challenged.

“I hesitate to talk about all schools in general because schools are made up of individual students attending them.”

In reference to the #MeToo movement, she said she experienced some moments decades ago that “today would just be viewed as unacceptable.”

You could see why she rarely gives interviews.


Timing was unfortunate. Donald Trump today is expected to announce his response to the latest school massacre. Of course it won’t include any gun safety measures, only some federal money so schools could train teachers and other school staff to carry guns. But …. Betsy DeVos will be placed in charge of a commission to study the issue. In time, what do you think? A recommendation for still more guns? She’s not likely to grant many interviews after last night.