MSNBC’s Chris Hayes last night played a recording of Bill Gates at a Gates Foundation meeting relating conversations with Donald Trump. He drew laughs, though tears were probably in order.

From a Washington Post account:


In a video of the session, Gates revealed that at two separate meetings Trump needed help distinguishing HIV, short for human immunodeficiency virus, and HPV. The latter, human papillomavirus, is a sexually transmitted infection that is responsible for causing genital warts or cervical cancer.

“Both times he wanted to know if there was a difference between HIV and HPV, so I was able to explain that those are rarely confused with each other,” Gates said as the audience laughed.

According to the show’s host, Chris Hayes, Gates had been speaking to Gates Foundation staff at a meeting earlier this week. The foundation could not be reached for comment.

During the meetings, Trump also asked “if vaccines weren’t a bad thing because he was considering a commission to look into ill effects of vaccines,” Gates said.

Let us hope Trump doesn’t follow a pattern of getting even with people who make fun of him by going after vaccines just to spite Gates. Do not laugh.

Watch the video here. It includes some other knocks of Trump. He will not be happy.